The Committee of Inquiry into Child Abuse. Debate.

The Dean of Jersey.

This is the Friday after the debate about passing the terms of reference for the committee of Inquiry into State aloud Child Abuse which happened on Wednesday just gone & the Breaking News Today is of the Dean of Jersey's Church of England has been Suspended for not following correct Practise & Covering Up the Abuse of a Vulnerable Parishioner by a  Church Warden. 

You just could not make this SH!T Up & he had the Audacity to Speak in this Debate.

Unbelievable. 

You can read about this on the Voice For Children Blog HERE

Committee of Inquiry: Historical Child Abuse.
Lodged: 6th November 2012.
Council of Ministers.
P.118/2012.

The Greffier Reads the Proposition.



The Chief Minister gives his Speech on the Proposition.



Deputy Tadier gives his Speech on his Amendment to the Proposition.



The Chief Minister responses to the Amendment.

 

Senator Le Gresley speaks on the Amendment.



Deputy Le Herissier speaks on the Amendment.



Deputy Vallois speaks on the Amendment.



Deputy Higgins speaks on the Amendment.



Deputy Macon speaks on the Amendment.



Deputy Southern speaks on the Amendment.



Chief Minister makes statement about the Amendment.

 

Deputy Tadier's Amendment Vote.



Deputy Macon speaks on the Proposition.



Constable Le Troquer speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Baudain speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Pryke speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Young speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Pitman speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Tadier speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Higgins speaks on the Proposition.



Deputy Le Herissier speaks on the Proposition.



Senator Le Gresley speaks on the Proposition.



The Dean of Jersey speaks on the Proposition.



The Chief Minister responds to the speeches & we have the Vote






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Two Very different Speeches In COI Debate

First we have a one of the old dinosaurs that should not be in the States Chamber,
 Constable Michel Philip Le Troquer.
What's he got to Hide he was in the Police Force from 1975 to 2003! so right in the thick of it when they were picking up Run Away's & taking them back to get some more! He should not of been aloud to of been involved in this Debate!
Sorry Constable but this Happened in YOUR Parish on YOUR WATCH while YOU Were A COPPER!!!
So just Shut up, let the COI do its business & for once & for all get the Truth out there.

STOP TIRING TO KEEP THE COVER UP GOING.

  

Now we have Senator Francis du Heaume Le Gresley with his best Speech since taking over from Senator Stuart Syvret.  His not an old dinosaur, he's someone that sees the big picture & wants an end to this horrible  part of your History, he wants the Truth to come out so this chapter can come to a end.  We need more States members like him not like Troquer.

It was his Proposition to set up an Committee of Inquiry that got us to this point so he has to be Thanked & you will here the emotion in his voice & I'm sure the Relief because he knows it's going to happen & that is some feat. 

You hold your Head up high Senator I Thank You. 

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Questions without Answers. 05/03/13.

3.  Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chief Minister –

“Will the Chief Minister detail how much money to date Mourant Ozannes have been paid for
handling the Historic Child Abuse Redress Scheme and how much in total to date has been paid
out to abuse victims?”

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4.  Deputy J.A. Hilton of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Health and
Social Services –

“Would the Minister confirm whether four of the eight middle grade doctors employed in the
hospital have left during the past month or so, as reported at a recent Scrutiny hearing by one of
the Medical Directors and, if so, can the Minister explain why this happened, what notice the
doctors gave and what immediate action was taken to address the vacancies?”

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7.  Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chairman of the
Privileges and Procedures Committee –

“Following the decision in Sark to end the dual role of the Seneschal, what actions, if any, will
the Committee be taking to revisit the recommendations made in the Carswell report for Jersey to
end the dual role of the Bailiff?”

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10. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade will ask the following question of the Minister for Transport and
Technical Services –

“Does the Minister consider that he has failed in his duty to deliver the commitment given by one
of his predecessors, the Environment and Public Services President on 30th August 2005, to
transfer all bus service employees on “the same terms and conditions as apply at the date of issue
of any tender documentation” in the case of mechanics and cleaning staff transferred from
Connex to CT Plus?”

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13.  Deputy J.A. Hilton of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Health and
Social Services –

“What measures, if any, has the Minister taken to ensure that the delays experienced in recruiting
a replacement Respiratory Consultant will not be repeated in the future?”

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16.  Senator S.C. Ferguson will ask the following question of the Minister for Health and Social
Services –

“Further to her response to a written question (7435) on 19th February 2013, when the Minister
stated that work was underway jointly between her Department, the Chief Minister’s and the Law
Officers’ Departments to update and amend the present mental health legislation in Jersey, will
she advise whether the Law is currently Human Rights compliant and when the amendments will
be brought to the Assembly for debate?”

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17.  Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chief Minister –

“Will the Chief Minister advise how many Historic Child Abuse victims have been compensated
to date out of the total number of victims who have applied under the Redress Scheme, whether
Mourant Ozannes are requiring some victims to go through the trauma of more than one
psychological assessment and, if so, explain why?”

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18.  Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of H.M. Attorney General –

“Does a defendant have a legal right to request independent forensic testing of disputed
statements and documents?”

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2nd question period – Minister for Health and Social Services

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Questions without Answers. 19/02/13.

Home Affairs Minister, just doesn't talk to anyone or read anything or is it just convenient so to get out of jail.

4.  Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier will ask the following question of H.M. Attorney General –


“Further to the unauthorised publication of the Disciplinary Tribunal’s Judgment into the conduct
of the  3 Jersey police officers involved in the Curtis Warren investigation, will the Attorney
General comment on the allegations made in the judgement that the lack of complete
co-operation by the Jersey Authorities not only compromised the Hampshire Police enquiry but
also limited the full facts available to the Presiding Officer making a decision?”





7.  Deputy S. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs –


“Would the Minister inform members whether Senior Police Officers failed to co-operate with a
disciplinary investigation relating to the Curtis Warren case which they themselves had initiated
and, if so, what action, if any, will he be taking?”




8.  Deputy M. Tadier of  St. Brelade will ask the following question of the Minister for Home
Affairs –


“Following the unauthorized publication of the disciplinary tribunal’s judgement relating to the
3 police officers involved in the Curtis Warren case, has the Minister acted upon the
recommendation made at the tribunal that all 3 officers be formally commended for their hard
work and professionalism and, if not, will he do so and, if so, will the commendation be extended
to other officers involved in the case?”




13.  Deputy T.M. Pitman of  St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Home
Affairs –


“Further to the unauthorised publication of the judgement relating to 3 police officers involved in
the Curtis Warren case, has the Minister asked for a criminal investigation to be undertaken into
the issue raised in paragraph 29, namely the authenticity and accuracy of unsigned statements, a
matter that was called into question by a witness?”







17.  Deputy M.R. Higgins of  St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Home
Affairs –


“Further to the unauthorised publication of the Disciplinary Tribunal’s Judgment into the conduct
of 3 police officers involved in the Curtis Warren investigation, does the Minister stand by his
written answer of 29th January 2013 that “The public can be fully confident that the issues were
properly investigated by an outside Police Force” when the Tribunal’s judgment states that the
lack of co-operation “can only have compromised the Hampshire enquiry?”





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BBC Interview Graham Power about disciplinary Hearing.

 Graham Power QPM

Gets Interviewed on the BBC Jersey Radio about the disciplinary Hearing of three Police Officers involved in the Curtis Warren car Bugging Affair.





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Questions without Answers. 29/01/13.

"Well you alright my Lovee" At Last The Connectable of St Saviours asks a Question.

"you Keep it up, My Lovee" Put keep your Language Parliamentary "a"

First tonight.

      

  6. Deputy S. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chairman of Privileges and Procedures Committee – 

“Will the Chairman advise whether any consideration has been given to having a separate referendum question on the same day as the proposed electoral reform referendum, namely on the ‘Carswell’  recommendation that the Bailiff should cease to act as President of the States? And if not, why not?”

Now This one just shows us the contempt that the COM Has for anyone! The Minister was given this Question LAST THURSDAY. An Absolute Disgrace.

What other Government would but up if this?

O None, But Good Old Jersey

 8. Senator S.C. Ferguson will ask the following question of the Minister for Health and Social Services –  

“Would the Minister confirm the size of population upon which the size of the proposed new hospital is being based?”

 10. Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chief Minister –

 
“Does the Chief Minister consider that option B of the Electoral Commission meets international standards outlined by the Venice Commission - in that it proposes the votes of those in urban areas such as St. Helier for example would be worth less than others? If so, how does he believe this to be compatible with Council of Ministers’ commitment to promoting fairness as part of a strong and successful Island?

 He Likes Dressing Up!

 14. Deputy J.M. Maçon of St. Saviour will ask the following question of the Chairman of Privileges and Procedures Committee –  

“Can the Chairman explain whether the proposed referendum will carry a participation threshold, before the results will be deemed credible as there is no provision for this in the 2002 Referendum (Jersey) Law 2002 or in P.52/2013 and, if not, why not?”

 17. Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources – 

“Given the Electoral Commission has put forward Option B which suggests that votes of those in urban areas such as St. Helier for example would be worth less than others, would the Minister be able to balance this discrimination by reducing taxation for such electors?” 

 18. Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour will ask the following question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources – 

“Given, from information released last week, that only 737 home connections have been made between August 2012 and now in the Gigabyte Jersey project, how does the Minister reconcile this with his answer to Senator Ferguson on 26th June 2012 that the rate of connections was anticipated to rise to 2000 per month? How much of the Budget of £41.5 million remains to be spent?”



Now we had Constable of St Saviour asking the Transport Minister why he's going to be resurfacing Rue Des Pres Trading Estate & not the roads that do really need it.

Now there was a bit of interference just before she Asks her Question, So please Bare with it. 

 Radio Jersey are going to look into it.



She just can't Stop her Self  "a"

"Very Well Done my Love"

Now keep it up.



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Questions without Answers. 29/01/13.

You have to give it to him, he knows how to not answer a question.

All the way till he's Backed in to a Corner!

Just like he was on the Insideout Program.





3. Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chief Minister -

  “Will the Chief Minister advise the Assembly the current position regarding the Historic Child Abuse Redress Scheme and in particular the number of claims accepted, rejected and in dispute, and in the case of the latter will he outline the nature of the disputes and the current position regarding the extension of the scheme to cover people who were abused whilst in foster care or abused by persons who either lived in the care homes or were visiting them?

  4. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade will ask the following question of  H.M. Attorney General –

 “Given the criticism of States Police and a Lawyer in the Law Officers’ Department by the Privy Council in relation to the Curtis Warren prosecution and the alleged involvement of the Attorney General in the subsequent police disciplinary case, would the Attorney General make a statement clarifying the situation?”

7. Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs –  

“Given the verdict of the Police Disciplinary Tribunal, is the Minister satisfied that the police acted with complete authority in the matter of bugging a vehicle in the case Re Curtis Warren?”

  16. Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs – 

“Due to the important public interest issues involved will the Minister publish the written decision of the disciplinary tribunal involving the three police officers involved in the Curtis Warren car bugging case, and if not why not? And if so when?



(c) – Questions to Ministers without notice (30 minutes) –

      2nd question period – Minister for Home Affairs



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Top Deputy, Pitman gets Interviewed on the BBC.

Deputy T. Pitman is interviewed about Leah McGarth Goodman getting her Visa, so she can return to Jersey & carry on Investigating about the Child Abuse that Happened over here.

Well Done Deputy & everyone that Signed the Petition.

Deputy T. Pitman is interviewed about a Jersey Paedophile Paul Renouf who got out of Jail & was able to disappear & Turn up in Bulgaria.

 

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Questions without Answers. 15/01/13.

Question 13. Surpasses everything that been aloud to happen in the States to this Date! Chief Minister passes Question to someone who Knows, But He say's he Knows nothing, But he say's its an on going Case so he can't Say any more!!!!!!!!!!!!

  So has he told us that there IS a Supper Inthingy out there that has been paid for out of our Tax's? To do with Private Person's against another Private Person?

This lot make it up as they go along there merry way!

1.  Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chief Minister –

“Does the Chief Minister plan to propose the creation of a Minister for External Relations and, if so, has he considered how this would impact on the so-called ‘Troy’ rule in the eventuality of the number of States Members being reduced as proposed by the Electoral Commission?”

4.  Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs –

“Will the Minister provide an estimate of the cost incurred by Department in respect of the surveillance, arrest, security and conviction of Curtis Warren and associates and the cost to date of the investigation and subsequent disciplinary action being pursued against three of the officers involved in the said case?”

10.  Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade will ask the following question of H.M. Attorney General –

“Will H.M. Attorney General provide an estimate of the prosecution costs in respect of the conviction of Curtis Warren and associates, including the appeal case, and advise what steps, if any, have been taken to recover the court and case costs?”

Now For Something Completely Different. 

  Chief Minister passes this to someone that Knows !

13.  Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Chief Minister –

“Will the Minister clarify how much taxpayers’ money has thus far been spent in support of the four individuals bringing actions under the Data Protection (Jersey) Law 2005, relating to the internet?”

(c) – Questions to Ministers without notice (30 minutes)


2nd question period – Chief Minister

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